Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)
- 1a.
- Re: Advice From: Boosutherland@aol.com
- 1b.
- Re: Advice From: andreahome3
- 1c.
- Re: Advice From: Frank Schoch
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- Re: Advice From: Momsclub Nigeria
- 1e.
- Re: Advice From: Tricia Allen
- 1f.
- Re: Advice From: Genise Keiper
- 1g.
- Re: Advice From: Carrie Schillinger
- 1h.
- Re: Advice From: tamb2108
- 1i.
- Re: Advice From: Jody Mort
- 1j.
- Re: Advice From: Vickie Washburn
- 1k.
- Re: Advice From: Vickie Washburn
- 1l.
- Re: Advice From: cathie karas
- 1m.
- Re: Advice From: Kirstie H
- 1n.
- Re: Advice From: Boosutherland@aol.com
- 2a.
- Re: Swine Flu vaccinations From: cat_re04
- 3a.
- teething From: Frank
- 3b.
- Re: teething From: Jill Militello
- 3c.
- Re: teething From: cnew@vzw.blackberry.net
- 3d.
- Re: teething From: Lisa Stock
- 3e.
- Re: teething From: Bobbie Masterson
- 3f.
- Re: teething From: Genise Keiper
- 3g.
- Re: teething From: Tameka Downing
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- Re: hey have anine moth old son From: Lynette Mary
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- Re: hey have anine moth old son From: Mytz Castillo
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- inventor From: Linda Roe
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Re: Advice
Posted by: "Boosutherland@aol.com" Boosutherland@aol.com boosutherland
Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:49 am (PST)
Hi, I read your email twice and it's obvious that you are in a lot of pain
and troubled by the constant conflict you must be feeling with your
husband and daughter.
I think that your husband is going a little too far with telling you to
not see your own child and then to tell her that she is not allowed in the
home....not good!!! I do understand that she stole from him and that she has
been in a lot of trouble, but to tell her that she is not allowed to see
her family, especially her own mother. (Personally, no man could ever stop
me from being there for my child, but that's your decision).
I'm a little confused about something...Why was CPS called on your
husband? you said that it could have cost him his career...WHY? if he isn't doing
anything wrong then he doesn't have anything to worry about.
A child doesn't act out for no reason, obviously there is something going
on with your daughter and she is crying out for help, and you as her
mother need to help her. Have you tried family counseling? Teenagers today are
faced with so much more than we were faced with when we were younger, it's a
tough world for kids today. Reach out to someone and get help for your
whole family because this is not just her problem, this is effecting the whole
family. When she goes to court ask the courts for help, and more
importantly be there for your daughter, she needs you.
Take care and God bless, Eliza
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Re: Advice
Posted by: "andreahome3" andreahome3@yahoo.com andreahome3
Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:50 am (PST)
Hi, Kim I really don't have any real advice but I can say that it should get better over time. I myself was that 17 year old girl except with me I was a little younger like 15 but I hated my stepfather and was always sneaking out and he in turn was very mean to me. My mom never turned her back on me though. She stood up to my stepdad and just loved me. I did have to learn alot along the way but I am a very good mom to my children now and owe alot of the credit to my mom for always believing in me to do better for myself. good luck on your situation I know it has to be hard. Andrea
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From: Kim <mudduckrecording@yahoo.com >
To: mompowergroup@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tue, November 17, 2009 10:33:02 AM
Subject: [mompowergroup] Advice
Hello my name is Kim and I am a mother of 3 children 2 girls 17 and 11months, and a boy 3. I need some advice I have been with my husband for 10years 7 married years. my 17 year old daughter is from a previous marrage. Things between them started off good but has she became a teenager just progressively gotten worse. long story short she snuk out of our house got into his truck and took his debt card and shopped at walmart, jackinthebox, and got gas. she was back in the house when he got up to go to work, I checked the bank account and found the info confronted her about it and she admitted it. I called my husband and told him, I sent her to go live with her father however she went somewhere else. So then I had to report her as a runaway. Well my husband thinks he is suppose to come before my children, he pressed charges on her for theft, (which will be a fellony on her record forever) I am not sure this was the right thing to do and I told him that but
we argue about her all the time. I am not suppose to talk to her or see her and he said she is not allowed at our home the other kids will not see her. I do not think that this is right what are your thoughts on this. Yes she has been a definant child getting in trouble at school and bad grades and lying and etc. She has had CPS called on him twice (which could have cost him his career) she did not call and tell anyone to call but by the things she does and says others have called including her real father who has not really been involved. anyone that would talk to me would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Kim
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Re: Advice
Posted by: "Frank Schoch" fschoch@ymail.com fschoch@ymail.com
Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:51 am (PST)
hi Kim my name is Karen you can email me at fschoch@ymail.com to talk my thoughts on your daughter, I have children who have done the same things I do have a few ? do you think your daughter is doing this because she don't like her step-father or does it go deeper? every parent never want to ask the queastion but could it have anything to do w/ drugs? I would really like to talk to you more on the subject but you can't say some things on this website so if you would like to talk you can email any time I'm on the computer quite often douring the day. I look forward to talking to you & I pray I can help
Karen from P.A.
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From: Kim <mudduckrecording@yahoo.com >
Hello my name is Kim and I am a mother of 3 children 2 girls 17 and 11months, and a boy 3. I need some advice I have been with my husband for 10years 7 married years. my 17 year old daughter is from a previous marrage. Things between them started off good but has she became a teenager just progressively gotten worse. long story short she snuk out of our house got into his truck and took his debt card and shopped at walmart, jackinthebox, and got gas. she was back in the house when he got up to go to work, I checked the bank account and found the info confronted her about it and she admitted it. I called my husband and told him, I sent her to go live with her father however she went somewhere else. So then I had to report her as a runaway. Well my husband thinks he is suppose to come before my children, he pressed charges on her for theft, (which will be a fellony on her record forever) I am not sure this was the right thing to do and I told him that but
we argue about her all the time.
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Re: Advice
Posted by: "Momsclub Nigeria" momsnigeria@yahoo.com momsnigeria
Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:52 am (PST)
Dear Kim,
Please my own little advice is that you should try and let her see a counselor, you just cannot allow her to stay away from you for now as she needs you beside her. Try and find out what really made her do certain things, is it out of frustration etc. At this stage and the situation she is into,she needs you beside her.
Please make your husband see reasons with you but please don't fight with him as this may cause you another problem in your present marriage. Am an African and a Nigerian,if its in my place of birth,we take her to a church for spiritual counseling.
MOMS CLUB
--- On Tue, 11/17/09, Kim <mudduckrecording@yahoo.com > wrote:
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Hello my name is Kim and I am a mother of 3 children 2 girls 17 and 11months, and a boy 3. I need some advice I have been with my husband for 10years 7 married years. my 17 year old daughter is from a previous marrage. Things between them started off good but has she became a teenager just progressively gotten worse. long story short she snuk out of our house got into his truck and took his debt card and shopped at walmart, jackinthebox, and got gas. she was back in the house when he got up to go to work, I checked the bank account and found the info confronted her about it and she admitted it. I called my husband and told him, I sent her to go live with her father however she went somewhere else. So then I had to report her as a runaway.
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Re: Advice
Posted by: "Tricia Allen" trish_imom@yahoo.com trish_imom
Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:53 am (PST)
Wow Kim, I will pray things get better for you.. I understand that it's hard for step parents to relate to their step-children and vice versa..I have a step-daugher from a previous marriage and my husband is a step-father to two of my children.. I understand the struggle, because you know your own children better and have a stronger bond (since birth).
I don't know all of your situation, but I know that teenagers (especially girls!) go through this wild phase--I was extremely stressed and worried about our two girls (one is my step) during the teenage years--especially 15-18. One would sneak out of the house, was extremely moody and angry--I was worried she would not graduate cuz she missed so much school...one we worried cuz she was promiscuos. (note: they are both so much more well-adjusted, goal driven--so there is hope!) I am rambling, but your daughter may also be harboring hurtful feelings of insecurity, rejection?-- these feelings can easily turn to anger and resentment. I don't know if you guys go to church--You can seek counseling with Church pastor, or through some other counselor..I believe that an outside mediator is key--because trying to work it out yourselves will result in more frustration and walls being built up. Your husband has had it with her sounds like, but this is your
daughter! He needs to understand that you just cannot give up on your daughter--it's not fair to you or your daughter.
That is my two cents..just to let you know I care, will be praying for you, and hope that you can seek help w/ a mediator of some sort, until trust can gradually build back up and she can gradually be welcome back to your home and family.
Sincerely,
Trish Allen
--- On Tue, 11/17/09, Kim <mudduckrecording@yahoo.com > wrote:
Hello my name is Kim and I am a mother of 3 children 2 girls 17 and 11months, and a boy 3. I need some advice I have been with my husband for 10years 7 married years. my 17 year old daughter is from a previous marrage. Things between them started off good but has she became a teenager just progressively gotten worse. long story short she snuk out of our house got into his truck and took his debt card and shopped at walmart, jackinthebox, and got gas. she was back in the house when he got up to go to work, I checked the bank account and found the info confronted her about it and she admitted it. I called my husband and told him, I sent her to go live with her father however she went somewhere else. So then I had to report her as a runaway. Well my husband thinks he is suppose to come before my children, he pressed charges on her for theft, (which will be a fellony on her record forever) I am not sure this was the right thing to do and I told him that but
we argue about her all the time.
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Re: Advice
Posted by: "Genise Keiper" icefairycrimson@yahoo.com icefairycrimson
Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:54 am (PST)
He shouldn't make you choose between her and him I know shes not the best kid but I wouldn't shut my daughter out for any man. Plus there's gotta be a reason she acts like this towards him kids have a hard time dealing with step parents try to put yourself in her shoes. It sounds like a cry for attention or help maybe you should spend some one on one time with her. Its hard when your parents move on and start a new family and that might be how she feels she might not feel part of the family and it doesn't help if her dad isn't doing much she probably feels like all she has are her friends if your putting your husband before her I can almost guarantee that's how she feels. I went through something similar with my parents I moved out on bad terms at 17. Me and my mother are best friends now but the more she put him first the more it pushed me away. I know it sounds selfish but when a child is used to having someone be there for them all along and one
day it all falls apart and your child is suddenly second to siblings and a new father figure its alot to take in and deal with. And you you stop talking to her now it may make her path of destruction much worse and reconciling with her might not be so easy. He's your husband but she's your child a part of you that will always be there! So I hope this helps and good luck I hope everything works out. Adair (mother of one)
--- On Tue, 11/17/09, Kim <mudduckrecording@yahoo.com > wrote:
From: Kim <mudduckrecording@yahoo.com >
Subject: [mompowergroup] Advice
To: mompowergroup@yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 4:33 PM
Hello my name is Kim and I am a mother of 3 children 2 girls 17 and 11months, and a boy 3. I need some advice I have been with my husband for 10years 7 married years. my 17 year old daughter is from a previous marrage. Things between them started off good but has she became a teenager just progressively gotten worse. long story short she snuk out of our house got into his truck and took his debt card and shopped at walmart, jackinthebox, and got gas. she was back in the house when he got up to go to work, I checked the bank account and found the info confronted her about it and she admitted it. I called my husband and told him, I sent her to go live with her father however she went somewhere else. So then I had to report her as a runaway. Well my husband thinks he is suppose to come before my children, he pressed charges on her for theft, (which will be a fellony on her record forever) I am not sure this was the right thing to do and I told him that but
we argue about her all the time. I am not suppose to talk to her or see her and he said she is not allowed at our home the other kids will not see her. I do not think that this is right what are your thoughts on this. Yes she has been a definant child getting in trouble at school and bad grades and lying and etc. She has had CPS called on him twice (which could have cost him his career) she did not call and tell anyone to call but by the things she does and says others have called including her real father who has not really been involved. anyone that would talk to me would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Kim
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Re: Advice
Posted by: "Carrie Schillinger" carrieschillinger@yahoo.com carrieschillinger
Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:54 am (PST)
Hello Kim,
There are so many ways this could go. Yes, I think that charges should be pressed against her. You can be there to support her, but a little tough love can go a long way. She's soon to be an adult, but her actions speak of a brat. She's too old to spank and she needs a time out. She needs time to be away and find out just how tough it is on the outside of the family. She probably needs to be with her real father and he can lay down the law. If you take her to court, you can ask for court ordered help for her. If you baby her on this, she'll try other things that could have more devastating consequences. Talk with your ex-husband and get on the same page when it comes to how to handle her and maybe you will have some help along the way with the courts.There are some kids that don't learn until they hit rock bottom. I don't know what happened to your daughter for her switch to flip against your husband, but there's not much time, since
she is 17 to figure it out. Talk to both the men in your life and get them on the same page. There's no magic bullet for a situation like this other than to go with your gut feeling.
Carrie
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From: Kim <mudduckrecording@yahoo.com >
To: mompowergroup@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tue, November 17, 2009 11:33:02 AM
Subject: [mompowergroup] Advice
Hello my name is Kim and I am a mother of 3 children 2 girls 17 and 11months, and a boy 3. I need some advice I have been with my husband for 10years 7 married years. my 17 year old daughter is from a previous marrage. Things between them started off good but has she became a teenager just progressively gotten worse. long story short she snuk out of our house got into his truck and took his debt card and shopped at walmart, jackinthebox, and got gas. she was back in the house when he got up to go to work, I checked the bank account and found the info confronted her about it and she admitted it. I called my husband and told him, I sent her to go live with her father however she went somewhere else. So then I had to report her as a runaway. Well my husband thinks he is suppose to come before my children, he pressed charges on her for theft, (which will be a fellony on her record forever) I am not sure this was the right thing to do and I told him that but
we argue about her all the time. I am not suppose to talk to her or see her and he said she is not allowed at our home the other kids will not see her. I do not think that this is right what are your thoughts on this. Yes she has been a definant child getting in trouble at school and bad grades and lying and etc. She has had CPS called on him twice (which could have cost him his career) she did not call and tell anyone to call but by the things she does and says others have called including her real father who has not really been involved. anyone that would talk to me would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Kim
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Re: Advice
Posted by: "tamb2108" tamara_bridge@yahoo.ca tamb2108
Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:54 am (PST)
WoW.... that is a hard situation you are in. My suggestion would be to either go to family councelling or to try to sit down and talk with both your daughter and your husband together. You have to realize that she is obviously having a hard time as being a teenager, which is normal. She is acting out and is crossing the line but I dont think it is right for your husband to say that she cannot see the family and it seems to be turning into a battle between them. Who is the adult in the situation and who is the teenager. You need to openly discuss everything that is going on and be strong for yourself, and your family. Set the rules straight for all involved. I feel for you and your situation and hope that you are able to find a resolution. Be Strong.
--- In mompowergroup@yahoogroups. , "Kim" <mudduckrecording@com ...> wrote:
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> Hello my name is Kim and I am a mother of 3 children 2 girls 17 and 11months, and a boy 3. I need some advice I have been with my husband for 10years 7 married years. my 17 year old daughter is from a previous marrage. Things between them started off good but has she became a teenager just progressively gotten worse. long story short she snuk out of our house got into his truck and took his debt card and shopped at walmart, jackinthebox, and got gas. she was back in the house when he got up to go to work, I checked the bank account and found the info confronted her about it and she admitted it. I called my husband and told him, I sent her to go live with her father however she went somewhere else. So then I had to report her as a runaway. Well my husband thinks he is suppose to come before my children, he pressed charges on her for theft, (which will be a fellony on her record forever) I am not sure this was the right thing to do and I told him that but we argue about her all the time. I am not suppose to talk to her or see her and he said she is not allowed at our home the other kids will not see her. I do not think that this is right what are your thoughts on this. Yes she has been a definant child getting in trouble at school and bad grades and lying and etc. She has had CPS called on him twice (which could have cost him his career) she did not call and tell anyone to call but by the things she does and says others have called including her real father who has not really been involved. anyone that would talk to me would be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Kim
>
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Posted by: "Jody Mort" jlmort19@yahoo.com jlmort19
Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:55 am (PST)
I'm sorry but I put no-one in front of my children. I always want my children to know that no matter what I will Always love them & will never turn my back on them. Its too bad that your husband is acting childish & setting a poor example for all of your children. You children want to be Loved. The problem with most kids & teens today is they feel that no-one cares. I was a wild child, I've always known my mom would always be there. I outgrew it. My mom is still there. Broken Hearts & feeling like you are not loved by a parent never really gets repaired. My dad is judgemental & I will never felt he cares for me like my mom, actually I know he doesn't. Your children need you, no matter their age.
You gave birth to her.. She needs You....Give her the help & Love she needs. If your other 2 children run into trouble when they are older, are you going to walk away from them? Is your husband going to turn his back on them too?
Anyway Just my pont of view. I hope you all the best. Tell her you Love her!
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From: Kim <mudduckrecording@yahoo.com >
To: mompowergroup@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tue, November 17, 2009 11:33:02 AM
Subject: [mompowergroup] Advice
Hello my name is Kim and I am a mother of 3 children 2 girls 17 and 11months, and a boy 3. I need some advice I have been with my husband for 10years 7 married years. my 17 year old daughter is from a previous marrage. Things between them started off good but has she became a teenager just progressively gotten worse. long story short she snuk out of our house got into his truck and took his debt card and shopped at walmart, jackinthebox, and got gas. she was back in the house when he got up to go to work, I checked the bank account and found the info confronted her about it and she admitted it. I called my husband and told him, I sent her to go live with her father however she went somewhere else. So then I had to report her as a runaway. Well my husband thinks he is suppose to come before my children, he pressed charges on her for theft, (which will be a fellony on her record forever) I am not sure this was the right thing to do and I told him that but
we argue about her all the time. I am not suppose to talk to her or see her and he said she is not allowed at our home the other kids will not see her. I do not think that this is right what are your thoughts on this. Yes she has been a definant child getting in trouble at school and bad grades and lying and etc. She has had CPS called on him twice (which could have cost him his career) she did not call and tell anyone to call but by the things she does and says others have called including her real father who has not really been involved. anyone that would talk to me would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Kim
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Posted by: "Vickie Washburn" ickyscuba@yahoo.com ickyscuba
Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:35 am (PST)
I have been married 21 years and with my husband 23 yrs. I have endured much of the same things you are talking about. I don't think leaving is the answer. Family Counseling is the answer. I understand your hubby taking a hard line. Tough love is just that Tough. I doubt the felony will stay on her record because she is a minor but she needs to understand that it could. What she did is wrong. If she had just taken the truck that would be one thing. the bank card is another. I believe your husband is right, he does come first. My belief is that in each of our lives it should be God our spouse then our children then the rest of the world. If your husband has tried to be a loving father to her and is not abusive then he should come first. If he is abusive that is a whole nother issue and then I would leave. She is being a typical rebellious teenager. Your husband needs to understand that. He probably was as well and needs to be reminded of that.
Get all of you in counseling. He can't tell you not to see your child.that is wrong on his part. he also can not tell you to keep the other kids away from her. Again wrong on his part. She stole from him. She needs to rebuild trust. If he is a basically loving man and is well intentioned he will open his heart to her again but she will need to earn it. My husband has said my children (3 - 2 boys and 1 girl) were not welcome, Told me not to see them. I tell him he has no right to tell me that. He is not the boss of me. I am an adult and their mother and I will see them if I want to. I just ignore him. He is speaking in anger. He always gives in and always has forgiven. He loves them and I know it and so do they. Sometimes they make it hard tho. they are all adults now but the teenage years about killed our marriage and us personally. I am sure if we had not had a child together it would have but we were both determined to stay
together so our son would have both parents and we have come thru it and are still together. We have some scars but we made it. Us mom's feel so connected to our children it is difficult to let them hurt. Fathers are not so connected. Which can be a good thing. She needs to learn the consequences of her actions. What does her father say about all of this? Is he supportive of you and your husband or is he standing against you?
Vickie
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From: tamb2108 <tamara_bridge@yahoo.ca >
To: mompowergroup@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wed, November 18, 2009 3:10:06 PM
Subject: [mompowergroup] Re: Advice
WoW.... that is a hard situation you are in. My suggestion would be to either go to family councelling or to try to sit down and talk with both your daughter and your husband together. You have to realize that she is obviously having a hard time as being a teenager, which is normal. She is acting out and is crossing the line but I dont think it is right for your husband to say that she cannot see the family and it seems to be turning into a battle between them. Who is the adult in the situation and who is the teenager. You need to openly discuss everything that is going on and be strong for yourself, and your family. Set the rules straight for all involved. I feel for you and your situation and hope that you are able to find a resolution. Be Strong.
--- In mompowergroup@ yahoogroups. com, "Kim" <mudduckrecording@ ...> wrote:
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> Hello my name is Kim and I am a mother of 3 children 2 girls 17 and 11months, and a boy 3. I need some advice I have been with my husband for 10years 7 married years. my 17 year old daughter is from a previous marrage. Things between them started off good but has she became a teenager just progressively gotten worse. long story short she snuk out of our house got into his truck and took his debt card and shopped at walmart, jackinthebox, and got gas. she was back in the house when he got up to go to work, I checked the bank account and found the info confronted her about it and she admitted it. I called my husband and told him, I sent her to go live with her father however she went somewhere else. So then I had to report her as a runaway. Well my husband thinks he is suppose to come before my children, he pressed charges on her for theft, (which will be a fellony on her record forever) I am not sure this was the right thing to do and I told him that
but we argue about her all the time. I am not suppose to talk to her or see her and he said she is not allowed at our home the other kids will not see her. I do not think that this is right what are your thoughts on this. Yes she has been a definant child getting in trouble at school and bad grades and lying and etc. She has had CPS called on him twice (which could have cost him his career) she did not call and tell anyone to call but by the things she does and says others have called including her real father who has not really been involved. anyone that would talk to me would be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Kim
>
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Re: Advice
Posted by: "Vickie Washburn" ickyscuba@yahoo.com ickyscuba
Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:35 am (PST)
I have to disagree with two things in your email. Teenagers do act out for no reason. hormones can be the only reason. The other thing is that CPS can ruin people's lives with no justification whatsoever. I would never get CPS involved in anything in my life or the lives of my children.
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From: "Boosutherland@aol.com " <Boosutherland@aol.com >
To: mompowergroup@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wed, November 18, 2009 8:20:37 AM
Subject: Re: [mompowergroup] Advice
Hi, I read your email twice and it's obvious that you are in a lot of pain and troubled by the constant conflict you must be feeling with your husband and daughter.
I think that your husband is going a little too far with telling you to not see your own child and then to tell her that she is not allowed in the home....not good!!! I do understand that she stole from him and that she has been in a lot of trouble, but to tell her that she is not allowed to see her family, especially her own mother. (Personally, no man could ever stop me from being there for my child, but that's your decision).
I'm a little confused about something... Why was CPS called on your husband? you said that it could have cost him his career...WHY? if he isn't doing anything wrong then he doesn't have anything to worry about.
A child doesn't act out for no reason, obviously there is something going on with your daughter and she is crying out for help, and you as her mother need to help her. Have you tried family counseling? Teenagers today are faced with so much more than we were faced with when we were younger, it's a tough world for kids today. Reach out to someone and get help for your whole family because this is not just her problem, this is effecting the whole family. When she goes to court ask the courts for help, and more importantly be there for your daughter, she needs you.
Take care and God bless, Eliza
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Posted by: "cathie karas" cat_re04@yahoo.com cat_re04
Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:35 am (PST)
Try not to go to court, and keep CPS out of this (for now). I believe children should come first, but I've had experiences where men can make this very difficult. Talk to your daughter find out if something has happened to her, is she doing drugs, did someone hurt her? Because when kids act out, that may be why. Love her and support her as much as you can. My mother is no longer in my life(due to disagreeing, etc), and it is a bit hurtful. Don't lose her. Seek counseling if all else fails.
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Posted by: "Kirstie H" kirstie_mo@yahoo.com kirstiehague
Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:58 am (PST)
Yes, teenagers DO act out from time-to-time because of hormones and just the craziness of being a teenager. However, there's a difference between that and acting out in a persistent manner involving dangerous and/or illegal activities.
"Normal" teenagers bring all of the expected ups & downs that go along with teenagers, who are at that point largely ruled by their emotions and who are affected greatly by anything that happens. If they have a good day, they'll be ecstatic and think it was the best day of all time EVER. If they have a bad day, life is miserable and as a parent you're probably at least partially to blame - in THEIR mind, of course.
But there are some (and I've had one) whose acting out is beyond the normal expectation: stealing, constant lying, stop putting any effort into school, and more than anger - out-of-control rage. I did eventually let the police handle it. It broke my heart, but you know what? That was the start of her healing. I know now that if I'd just kept putting up with it and making excuses for her, she'd be in very serious trouble now.
It's important to be able to distinguish between what constitutes a normal level of teenage misbehavior and mischief, and warning signs that something seriously needs to change. It's YOUR family, and you only get one chance!
Regards,
kirstie
Moderator, Mom Power Group
--- In mompowergroup@yahoogroups. , Vickie Washburn <ickyscuba@.com ..> wrote:
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> I have to disagree with two things in your email. Teenagers do act out for no reason. hormones can be the only reason. The other thing is that CPS can ruin people's lives with no justification whatsoever. I would never get CPS involved in anything in my life or the lives of my children. Â
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Re: Advice
Posted by: "Boosutherland@aol.com" Boosutherland@aol.com boosutherland
Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:03 pm (PST)
Hi,
You responded to my email and said that you disagree with two things I
said. So, I wanted to just respond to that. lol
First off, when I said teenagers don't act out for no reason; I might
have spoke too soon, because you're right! teenagers will and do act out for
no reason. Well, other than that they are teenagers and as you said,
"hormones" But what I really wanted to respond to more than that, is my feelings
on CPS...when I asked if there was a reason for them getting involved with
the stepfathers business; I didn't mean that in a accusatory way, by no means
am I blaming the stepfather for anything (other than being too hard on the
mother). I agree with you about CPS ruining people's lives they can and
have done that many, many times. I wasn't suggesting to her to get involved
with CPS I just said that counseling would help and I really hope it does.
Thanks for reading this, Eliza
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Re: Swine Flu vaccinations
Posted by: "cat_re04" cat_re04@yahoo.com cat_re04
Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:51 am (PST)
I am not getting the swine flu vaccine for myself or my son (2 years old), but I did get him the seasonal flu shot. When he got sick afterwards, 2 days later I took him to the doc. (I know most people are saying it's a dead virus so it's not related, but I think it may be). So the doc said it's just a cold, but since he had a high fever I was nervous. I asked "could it be swine flu, do you test for it?" She said that her office doesn't test for it, and the places that are- they are using a swab test which is ONLY 50% accurate. So we really don't know. And we absolutely can't rely 100% on the docs. We need to research ourselves, and have a healthy lifestyle. Loads of fruits and veggies. My son loves junk food, thanks to his father, but I'm working on stopping that. :-) Take care of your families because NO one else will do it quite as good as you can!
--- In mompowergroup@yahoogroups. , April Scarlott <ascarlott@.com ..> wrote:
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> After all that our government has imposed on us, it pains me to see how many
> otherwise doting moms are trusting them to have our childrens best interest at heart
> & by allowing them or requiring them to take the swine flu shots. There have been
> multiple confirmed "tainted" batches of this stuff and their are literally hundereds
> of doctors worldwide saying not to take this vaccine ~ and that they themselves
> would not, nor would they allow their families..... DO YOUR HOMEWORK
> BEFORE YOU BLINDLY HAVE YOUR KIDS VACCINATED. The information
> is there if you do your due diligence!! Story after story, ITS THERE!
> Wake up MOMS!!
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> informed mom
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teething
Posted by: "Frank" fschoch@ymail.com fschoch@ymail.com
Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:55 am (PST)
good morning ladies, my name is Karen, this is my problem. My son Frankie has been having problems with sleeping at night, some of you had told me to get him checked for ear infection. I did that & thankfully it is not an ear infection its his teeth right now he has 8 comming in at once,the problem is that the teeth wont copme through no matter what I try so the Dr. said we may have to cut his gums. Now my problem is I don't know if I want to put him through that he is only 19 months old, but in the same sence I can't go many more days with no sleep does anyone have any new ideas on how to get the teeth to come through on there own I would appriciate anything anyone has to offer
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Re: teething
Posted by: "Jill Militello" jem060504@yahoo.com jem060504
Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:31 am (PST)
Try chewing on raw carrots or frozen peas it felt good on my boys gums and helped the teething along.
Jill
--- On Thu, 11/19/09, Frank <fschoch@ymail.com > wrote:
From: Frank <fschoch@ymail.com >
Subject: [mompowergroup] teething
To: mompowergroup@yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 8:11 AM
good morning ladies, my name is Karen, this is my problem. My son Frankie has been having problems with sleeping at night, some of you had told me to get him checked for ear infection. I did that & thankfully it is not an ear infection its his teeth right now he has 8 comming in at once,the problem is that the teeth wont copme through no matter what I try so the Dr. said we may have to cut his gums. Now my problem is I don't know if I want to put him through that he is only 19 months old, but in the same sence I can't go many more days with no sleep does anyone have any new ideas on how to get the teeth to come through on there own I would appriciate anything anyone has to offer
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Re: teething
Posted by: "cnew@vzw.blackberry.net" cnew@vzw.blackberry.net chencke75
Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:32 am (PST)
Hello, my name is Christie & I just wanted to let you know that my daughter had to have two teeth removed around that same age & the dentist took her to the hospital & she was put to sleep. She didn't know or feel a thing. God bless!
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-----Original Message-----
From: "Frank" <fschoch@ymail.com >
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:11:04
To: <mompowergroup@yahoogroups. >com
Subject: [mompowergroup] teething
good morning ladies, my name is Karen, this is my problem. My son Frankie has been having problems with sleeping at night, some of you had told me to get him checked for ear infection. I did that & thankfully it is not an ear infection its his teeth right now he has 8 comming in at once,the problem is that the teeth wont copme through no matter what I try so the Dr. said we may have to cut his gums. Now my problem is I don't know if I want to put him through that he is only 19 months old, but in the same sence I can't go many more days with no sleep does anyone have any new ideas on how to get the teeth to come through on there own I would appriciate anything anyone has to offer
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Re: teething
Posted by: "Lisa Stock" lisadavidstock@sbcglobal.net lisadavidstock@sbcglobal.net
Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:34 am (PST)
Good Morning Karen,
My name is Lisa, and have 3 children ages Matt-12, Kevin-10, and Britta who is 7, Just a little background. If Frankie is in alot of pain, i know that the pain can affect your jaw, and ears. I don't know if you received a second opinion, before you make the final descsion. Is there any way of the teeth coming thru anytime soon?
Anyhow, My son Matthew just had surgery on his teeth, he had 3 extra teeth that were preventing his adult teeth from coming in, and they put him to sleep, it was a 2 hour surgery, because they were taking these teeth from the jaw bone. I didn't want him to be in any more pain, he seems a lot better. We did go thru an oral surgeon at Childrens hospital
it really helped. I hate when us moms get into those positions if you don't do it, it may be more harm than good. Than my daughter Britta had 2 teeth, and some "tooth matter" removed. These teeth were preventing her adult teeth from coming in as well as being over
crowded. I would do it again in a heart beat. The kids did very well, only my kids are older, but I wish that I would of new earlier than I could of taken care of it earlier. My advice is that I would get a 2nd opnion to make sure that if there is another procedure on Frankie that maybe would be less invasive. If not then set it up, the oral surgeons know what they are doing and after he is healed from the surgery , Frankie will be a much happier child! I hope my advice helped. But, as you know you always want to do whats best for your child, and I hope that you get guided to the correct path.
Best Wishes,
Lisa Stock
Sheboygan, WI
lisadavidstock@sbcglobal. net
--- On Thu, 11/19/09, Frank <fschoch@ymail.com > wrote:
good morning ladies, my name is Karen, this is my problem. My son Frankie has been having problems with sleeping at night, some of you had told me to get him checked for ear infection. I did that & thankfully it is not an ear infection its his teeth right now he has 8 comming in at once,the problem is that the teeth wont copme through no matter what I try so the Dr. said we may have to cut his gums. Now my problem is I don't know if I want to put him through that he is only 19 months old, but in the same sence I can't go many more days with no sleep does anyone have any new ideas on how to get the teeth to come through on there own I would appriciate anything anyone has to offer
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Re: teething
Posted by: "Bobbie Masterson" petitelove@gmail.com bobbie_28
Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:35 am (PST)
Cut his gums? Never heard of this personally. I found the best relief for my
son is chewing. Anything and everything. Also, he seems to feel better after
brushing his teeth, maybe the brush "scrubbibg" his gums helps. My son is
also 19 months old and has been cutting his upper canines for about a week
now.
From: mompowergroup@yahoogroups. [mailto:mompowergroup@com yahoogroups. ]com
On Behalf Of Frank
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 8:11 AM
To: mompowergroup@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [mompowergroup] teething
good morning ladies, my name is Karen, this is my problem. My son Frankie
has been having problems with sleeping at night, some of you had told me to
get him checked for ear infection. I did that & thankfully it is not an ear
infection its his teeth right now he has 8 comming in at once,the problem is
that the teeth wont copme through no matter what I try so the Dr. said we
may have to cut his gums. Now my problem is I don't know if I want to put
him through that he is only 19 months old, but in the same sence I can't go
many more days with no sleep does anyone have any new ideas on how to get
the teeth to come through on there own I would appriciate anything anyone
has to offer
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Re: teething
Posted by: "Genise Keiper" icefairycrimson@yahoo.com icefairycrimson
Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:35 am (PST)
Have you tried giving him something hard to chew on?They have those teethers with the lumps on them,not the ones with water, you can sometimes find them on toys. They're like a rubbery plastic with small lumps on them that are sort of pointy. Thats the only thing I can think of, if nothing works you might have to let the docs cut. Will there be any numbing meds? Im sorry I can't be of more help I've never delt with anything like that, have you called a dentist? I know most dentists wont see a child under 2 but maybe they could tell you something that might help. Adair (mother of one)
--- On Thu, 11/19/09, Frank <fschoch@ymail.com > wrote:
From: Frank <fschoch@ymail.com >
Subject: [mompowergroup] teething
To: mompowergroup@yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 1:11 PM
good morning ladies, my name is Karen, this is my problem. My son Frankie has been having problems with sleeping at night, some of you had told me to get him checked for ear infection. I did that & thankfully it is not an ear infection its his teeth right now he has 8 comming in at once,the problem is that the teeth wont copme through no matter what I try so the Dr. said we may have to cut his gums. Now my problem is I don't know if I want to put him through that he is only 19 months old, but in the same sence I can't go many more days with no sleep does anyone have any new ideas on how to get the teeth to come through on there own I would appriciate anything anyone has to offer
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Re: teething
Posted by: "Tameka Downing" tdowning26@yahoo.com tdowning26
Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:54 am (PST)
Karen you can give him a frozen waffle or cleaned off chicken drumstick bone. It works.
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From: Frank <fschoch@ymail.com >
To: mompowergroup@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 8:11:04 AM
Subject: [mompowergroup] teething
good morning ladies, my name is Karen, this is my problem. My son Frankie has been having problems with sleeping at night, some of you had told me to get him checked for ear infection. I did that & thankfully it is not an ear infection its his teeth right now he has 8 comming in at once,the problem is that the teeth wont copme through no matter what I try so the Dr. said we may have to cut his gums. Now my problem is I don't know if I want to put him through that he is only 19 months old, but in the same sence I can't go many more days with no sleep does anyone have any new ideas on how to get the teeth to come through on there own I would appriciate anything anyone has to offer
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Re: hey have anine moth old son
Posted by: "Lynette Mary" lynette_here@yahoo.com lynette_here
Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:55 am (PST)
Also, most babies at this age suffer from infantile colic. Check this link and see if your baby has any of these symptoms... If so, this is a common thing, one method that has worked out for my friend was to pat the baby after every feed she has. But if you are really worried that something is wrong, it would be better to go to her doctor.
http://www.medicinenet.com/colic/ article.htm
Regards
Raina
--- On Wed, 18/11/09, Jill Militello <jem060504@yahoo.com > wrote:
From: Jill Militello <jem060504@yahoo.com >
Subject: Re: [mompowergroup] hey have anine moth old son
To: mompowergroup@yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 8:46 AM
Call your Doctor and tell them your child has been crying all day long and you want him to be checked out. It could be something or nothing at all. Better to be safe than sorry.
Jill
--- On Mon, 11/16/09, babygirl21 <amber_lee_grib19@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: babygirl21 <amber_lee_grib19@ yahoo.com>
Subject: [mompowergroup] hey have anine moth old son
To: mompowergroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 7:23 PM
i have a nine moth old son can some one tell me if crying everydav all day and night is normal or is something wrong with him and i just dont knowit yet
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Re: hey have anine moth old son
Posted by: "Mytz Castillo" mytz10@yahoo.com mytz10
Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:58 am (PST)
Baby girl,
A child especially infant will not cry if he is not feeling bad or hungry. It's not good for a baby to cry that long. Its possible that he has gas pain because babies develoip gas pain after feeding. That is why it is important to make them burf. Check everything, an insect or small pin might be biting or causing him pain. If you found nothing and he has no gas pain, you should take him immediately to the doctor. Hope it helps.
--- On Tue, 11/17/09, Jill Militello <jem060504@yahoo.com > wrote:
From: Jill Militello <jem060504@yahoo.com >
Subject: Re: [mompowergroup] hey have anine moth old son
To: mompowergroup@yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 9:16 PM
Call your Doctor and tell them your child has been crying all day long and you want him to be checked out. It could be something or nothing at all. Better to be safe than sorry.
Jill
--- On Mon, 11/16/09, babygirl21 <amber_lee_grib19@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: babygirl21 <amber_lee_grib19@ yahoo.com>
Subject: [mompowergroup] hey have anine moth old son
To: mompowergroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 7:23 PM
i have a nine moth old son can some one tell me if crying everydav all day and night is normal or is something wrong with him and i just dont knowit yet
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inventor
Posted by: "Linda Roe" icecream52765@yahoo.com icecream52765
Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:36 am (PST)
Thank you for the web link. I just received an e-mail from one of my grandkids teacher's that they are going to have a clinic from 12:30-1:30 to give the shot. I don't know if my grandkids are getting them, but I go to help with their classes starting at 12:30.
My daughter-in-law in NY won't be getting my grandkids shots, we talked about that when I went up there to babysit last month. Their schools have already had their clinic to give them.
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