[Everything doTERRA] Re: Blood Clots?

I hope I didn't offend.  What we have is a language barrier.  Our docs see that more and more people are using essential oils, and understand that there is a huge quality variation, etc.  But most generally do not choose to pursue holistic medicine as their course of study.  Therefore, any explanation of what has been done with the oils, unless there is accompanying documentation and research, might as well be in Swahili (unless, of course, your dr speaks Swahili already).  He knows what he knows.  When a new client comes to me for nutritional counseling and starts naming off the drugs he/she has been taking, I might understand some of the risks and effects associated there, but it is not my world, my realm.  I don't understand the logic that got that person to the point they are at; it takes work to wrap my head around it.  So I can support the systems of the body and call em as I sees em, but don't really have any business freaking out about it.  And I am harder on this type of client, letting them know up front that they may hate me before we're finished working through this.  I want to know that I am not going to be "stuck" with a non-compliance issue like so many of our doctors are.  There is not time in a clinic or hospital to decipher the patient's reasoning or source of information, and it can seem hopeless to invest time or effort in a conversation with a patient who more than likely simply wants a diagnosis and will go home to do their own thing. 

Love, Tamalu

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Denise Magneson <denise@digitaldefenders.com> wrote:

I appreciate the comments. But certainly, I wasn't suggesting an us VS them scenario. I believe Eastern and Western medicine can, should and often does coexist. My question stems from wanting to know what generally does occur.

 

Last week I was in the hospital for problems breathing (turned out to be an enlarged heart). Every time I spoke of what I had been doing to help myself with essential oils, the Dr. acted as if I hadn't spoken at all. It was the strangest  conversation I've ever had with a doctor.  I finally stopped speaking of the oils. Therefore spawning my interest in how other hospital staff and doctors generally react when presented with the oils.

 

Thanks for the insight.

 

Denise

 

From: everythingdoterra@googlegroups.com [mailto:everythingdoterra@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of *Tamalu Watkins*
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 11:09 AM

To: everythingdoterra@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Everything doTERRA] Re: Blood Clots?

 

Hi, Denise,

 

I read something in this thread that really disturbs me.  doTERRA is working with the medical community.  There is no "us" and 'Them".  My experience has been that if the patient requests me to come into the hospital to visit and assist as I can, and I go in with the confidence of a guest coming to comfort a friend, I am welcomed by all.  I do not go in with arrogance or the attitude of "they're going to blame the oils if there is a problem".  My intention behind going in is to bless my friend, and it is none of my business what the hospital staff thinks of me.  As a result, I have been welcomed in several hospitals, and the doctors and staff have been very open to me doing "whatever" I do.  They see the results.  But I approach the matter from the perspective of being a friend, and do not make claims outside of relaxation and comfort.  When I have been asked by the doctors for more information, I understand that what they want is documentation, which we have and they deserve.  That is how they think, and how they keep themselves from lawsuits.  Not because they are looking for a tree to hang someone on. More often than not, the doctor prefers not to know what happened, and is grateful to see things change. 

 

If your friend is in pain, and worried about a bloodclot, offer to gently apply some Helichrysum, Cypress and Deep Blue (or your choice-- you know what to use).  Explain that your touch by itself can offer comfort from the pain. 

 

And finally, I think often of the story of Esther.  She broke the law and went unbidden before the king.  But she prepared herself first and did not go alone.  She took the spirit of truth and love with her, left no room for doubt or worst-case scenarios, and saved a nation.  What are you doing to prepare?

 

Love, Tamalu

 

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Denise Magneson <denise@digitaldefenders.com> wrote:

Everyone,

 

What has your experience been with talking to the hospital staff about what you're wanting to do? Is it hit or miss depending on the staff, and they blame the oils if anything else goes wrong?

 

Are they open to the suggestion and interested in what you're doing? Or do they nix the idea and not let you touch the patient?

 

Thanks,

Denise

From: everythingdoterra@googlegroups.com [mailto:everythingdoterra@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brooke Magleby
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:47 AM
To: everythingdoterra@googlegroups.com

Subject: [Everything doTERRA] Re: Blood Clots?

 

I agree.  They aren't using the oils in the hospital because of that very thing.  Although, I wish they were at least using the On-Guard to help build her immune system.  I was more wondering about when she comes home....(hopefully in 2 more weeks).   The longer she stays there - the harder it is for her.  And they don't have any answers so it is extremely frustrating for her - emotionally and physically!  I'm looking forward to going and visiting her when I come for convention - since she is in SLC - and we're in Idaho.

We just keep praying she comes home to her hubby and kids soon!

Brooke Magleby

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From: Patricia Leavitt

To: everythingdoterra@googlegroups.com

Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 5:35 AM

Subject: [Everything doTERRA] Re: Blood Clots?

 

If she already had blood clots then there are oils that could be applied topically and also internally. The difficult part would be to administer them to her while in the hospital. Not even so much that the medical professionals taking care of her might object, but that if they knew she was using the oils (hard to hide the aroma), and something happened to her they could blame it on the oils. Mainly because they do not understand this modality. Also you want to dissolve the blood clot not break it up, so caution in vital.

Prayer always works wonders when other man made options are not working.

 

Pat

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Brooke Magleby <brookemag@cableone.net> wrote:

Any ideas for Blood Clots?  My dear friend is STILL in the hospital!  Been three weeks now and still can't get things stabilized.  Now they fear for blood clots - which seems so weird because she's been on SO much heparin and other blood thinners?  I don't know if anything can help - but I guess it's worth a try to ask!

Love and Thanks!

Brooke Magleby

 

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