On Mar 14, 2012, at 10:19 PM, Janyce <janlebaron@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm not at all knowledgeable about YL but since using and becoming
> very involved in my doTerra business a year ago, I have met many
> people who have or do use YL E.O.s. First, it occurred to me that
> since Dr. Hill was very instrumental, for many, many years, in
> creating blends for YL, it made sense to me that he created doTerra's
> blends similarly.
>
> I believe that years ago, YL was a reputable company with a top-of-the-
> industry essential oil. However, it is my understanding that in
> recent years, YL's oils became impure and that people were getting
> sick from them. I personally have met several people who have
> complained of getting rashes from YL oils. Also, a health food store
> that was carrying YL oils and took them out because people were
> getting sick from them.
>
> I have also meet several people who have told me that YL and it's
> owner are operating in a "cult" like manner. I even met a lady who
> said, "I don't care what YL's oils are doing to people, I don't care
> that doTerra's oils are CPTG, Gary Young was a pioneer in this field
> and I will never desert him!"
>
> I have also meet YL users who only use the oils in their "healing/
> spiritual practice but they do not use them for themselves or their
> family members. Or they use them for massage therapy and that is it.
> Why?!?! I don't get that at all...
>
> There are many essential oil companies out there that claim to be 100%
> therapeutic grade. So? There is no regulatory governing body to
> answer to. They can say whatever they want! However, doTerra has
> gone above that standard and created the certified pure grade of
> E.O.s. YL people are usually surprised that our oils are safe to be
> taken internally. Theirs are not but I have met people who use them
> internally.
>
> I have also heard that YL only does random testing whereas doTerra
> tests every batch. I understand that a company needs to have certain
> information remain proprietary - and I am not so desperate to know the
> names of the labs. I know they are in Utah. And I also know that the
> farmers don't get paid until the batch is CPTG. That is HUGE! The
> purity proof is in the product, the smell and the results, and that is
> good enough for me.
>
> A couple weeks ago, I had an opportunity to meet with a lady who had a
> large supply of YL oils. She wanted to compare them to doTerra and I
> was, of course, happy to participate in the smell testing with her.
> It was interesting that every oil I smelled had the same underlying
> chemical type smell to it. Every one! You could kind of smell what
> resembled essential oil, but most prominent was this ... other
> component that was something I was not familiar with. Not a perfume,
> so maybe a synthetic.... but it was in every oil. Some of them even
> smelled kind of rancid.
>
> Also interesting was that none of the YL oils list the ingredients on
> the bottles! But, every one of doTerra's oils list the ingredients.
> I have, recently, had several people ask me for a printout of the
> ingredients in a blend. I tell them, the bottle will give you all the
> ingredients. They say, they will?!?!? oh, that's awesome!
>
> Personally, I have a very strong "trust" in the doTerra corporate
> team. I have met many of them and have found them to be people of
> integrity. They have a very strong passion for what they are doing
> and they are compassionate and genuinely concerned about people, and
> to me, very pure hearted people. Which is why they started this
> company in the first place.
>
> I feel that, 1) if you don't have the same passion that the doTerra
> owners have, then you should move on...go to YL. See what happens.
> 2) If you have the same passion that the doTerra owners have, then
> don't be swayed by people who are trying to stir the pot - and tell
> stories about doTerra. For example, when I first started with
> doTerra, a friend emailed me a document that she found on her friend's
> Facebook that was stating that doTerra's Frankincense didn't contain
> Boswella. I was concerned about this negative publicity and forwarded
> the document to the proper channels. Then, we learned that
> Frankincense is not supposed to contain Boswella and is actually toxic
> to do so. However, it is in the LLV, which is proper for that
> product.
>
> I have a team mate who says, if you meet a YL person, the way to get
> them to try doTerra: you say, oh you like YL? Then you will LOVE
> doTerra - at the same time putting a bottle of oil under their nose.
> Or just say to them, just humor me and smell this. They are surprised
> every time! The proof is in the smell. I have had YL users tell me,
> "oh wow! I have to have these oils."
>
> If I meet people who are resistant to doTerra, I just move on to the
> next person. There are SO many people out there who do not know
> anything about E.O.s and that there is something pure that will heal
> them without synthetic medicine. Those are the people we need to
> focus on. We are the healers, the teachers, we want to educate people
> about the existence of this product. We don't want to use our energy
> debating with people who do not share this passion.
>
> What I have found is that YL users who are not open to hearing about
> doTerra and say these negative things, are either loyal followers or -
> they have a ton of inventory. I have also seen YL people with a ton
> of inventory either put theirs on Ebay or they use up theirs and start
> replacing it with doTerra.
>
> I also spoke with a lady who uses YL who said that Gary Young has sent
> out requests to his distributors asking them NOT to spread rumors
> about doTerra in the effort to keep "good business practices" - don't
> know if this is true.
>
> I have heard from others who have participated in other MLMs that the
> structure and language is the same or similar. I have no concerns in
> this area. The only thing I don't care for is being called
> "distributors" as I feel that since we are signed up as IPCs, we are
> consultants. And I personally, am a teacher and a consultant - which
> does not give the "salesman" connotation like distributor does.
>
> Lastly, there have been many other recent discussions on this topic on
> this forum. Maybe people should look at that information and draw
> their conclusions before posting about this again. It just frustrates
> those of us who know we have made the best decision possible by using
> and sharing doTerra and know that there is really no option.
>
> I understand Pat's defensive comments as she has had this same
> questioning over and over again. And, she knows all too well, that
> there is nothing better!
>
> Going forward, in my opinion, I think that if this questioning comes
> up again, there should be no answer except to say – see prior posts
> regarding this issue.
>
> I know I've been long winded but this in hopes to give some examples
> and constructive information that may be helpful. Thanks.
>
>
> On Mar 14, 3:55 pm, Kris <krazykr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am being told by a friend that Doterra isn't honest about their oils
>> and that they aren't a very good company. I have done a bit of
>> research and feel that those accusations are inaccurate. However, I do
>> have some questions about the company I am hoping some of you can shed
>> light on. I would like to have more than "because I said so" as a
>> defense for the company. :)
>>
>> 1. I read that two independent labs test each batch of Doterra's
>> essential oils. Which labs are those? Do we have actual names to
>> verify that?
>>
>> 2. I saw an interesting Youtube video that seems to identify that
>> Frankincense does NOT have boswelllic acid in it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZXejKRKKplY
>>
>> 3. I saw a disturbing accusation that is actually believable. It is
>> said that the video of the blood sample involving the Balance Blend is
>> nothing more than a digitized copy of the blood sample analysis done
>> by Young Living with their Valor blend.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmI4HE0NIhE - about 1 min and 54
>> secs in
>> vs.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72gyabv1WmM
>> I have to say they do look eerily similar.
>>
>> 4. I thought DoTERRA was the only company that did both Gas
>> Chromatograph and Mass Spectrometer testing. But according to Young
>> Living they also use BOTH of those forms of testing.http://www.youngliving.com/en_US/company/therapeutic-grade.html
>>
>> In fact this DoTERRA page seems to say a lot of the same kinds of
>> things as the above Young Living page.http://www.doterra.myvoffice.com/126467/essentialGrades.html
>>
>> 5. Young Living says that they have audits done on their oils by
>> independent companies to ensure the best quality and if any oil does
>> not measure up it is not used. (see same Young Living link in point 4)
>>
>> 6. Doterra has the CPTG trademark. Well Young Living has the YLTG
>> (Young Living Therapeutic Grade) Trademark.
>>
>> 7. Many of Doterra's blends are eerily similar to blends from YL. The
>> founders all say they didn't copy they 'improved'. Yeah, but it
>> appears that YL provided that framework and not much was really
>> changed by way of ingredients.
>>
>> It seems to appear more and more that Doterra is a duplicate of Young
>> Living. Both seem to claim absolute perfection and purity. So someone
>> please tell me how I am supposed to defend DoTERRA? Yes the leadership
>> of DoTERRA is awesome but isn't enough to say they are superior to
>> everyone else on the market when Young Living appears to be the exact
>> same and has been in existence for longer and many of DoTerra's
>> founders came from them in the first place. I've heard the story about
>> how Doterra came to be and the journey that founders took. It's pretty
>> amazing yes. But how do I explain to others that Doterra didn't just
>> come to be to compete with YL? I know it's about quality but so it
>> also appears to be with YL. If DoTERRA is truly superior I need
>> specifics to back this up - specifically in regard to YL. Someone
>> throw me a bone here. :)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Kris
>
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