responded. I just want to clarify, I am not being misled. I believe in
and am very passionate about DoTERRA. I just signed up as an IPC. The
reason I bring the issues forward (I'm not very familiar with this
forum sorry it is a repeated subject, I didn't know) is because I am
traveling a good way to do a class in the near future. I discovered
one of the invitees has tried DoTERRA but thinks there are purer and
cheaper oils out there. She thinks DoTERRA is not a good company and
actually compared it to Amway. I was actually a bit ticked off at her.
I responded nicely, don't worry. :)
I am trying to gather information so that in the future if someone
asks me these kinds of questions I can answer them rationally,
logically, civilly, and accurately. I got some valuable answers so
thank you. However, I do think it is our business who tests DoTERRA's
oils because if I'm going to put them into my body or the body of my
kids I want to know that the companies testing our oils are not
ashamed to identify themselves. I don't think it's necessary to get
credentials of all employees of the labs, I think that's a bit
overkill but I don't see why we need to hide their identities. This
'secrecy' is a bit concerning to me. For a company that is about
integrity (which I know DoTERRA is) and openness and honesty (they
have been so honest about how they create their oils and everything
which has bee great) why hide their testers? Maybe there's a
legitimate reason, a legal one, or something. I don't know. That's why
I'm asking.
Forgive me but I am still unclear with a few of the initial points I
brought to the table. If this subject upsets you then don't feel you
have to address it. I'm not trying to upset any fellow DoTERRA
people. :) I really do want answers because I want to feel as prepared
as possible to speak confidently about DoTERRA when others try to tear
it down. I know people will believe what they will believe but if they
speak up in a group of undecided people they can do damage to them by
convincing them through faulty and misleading logic to never try
DoTERRA. That would be a shame because I want to share DoTERRA with my
friends and help them to see through the inaccuracies and feel
confident that DoTERRA truly is as awesome as it says it is. :) So:
3. I saw a disturbing accusation that is actually believable. It is
said that the video of the blood sample involving the Balance Blend is
nothing more than a digitized copy of the blood sample analysis done
by Young Living with their Valor blend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmI4HE0NIhE - about 1 min and 54
secs in
vs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72gyabv1WmM
I have to say they do look eerily similar. So if DoTERRA is more pure
than YL then why do these videos look the same?
4. I thought DoTERRA was the only company that did both Gas
Chromatograph and Mass Spectrometer testing. But according to Young
Living they also use BOTH of those forms of testing. But if they have
the toxic Boswelic acid from the resin of Frankincense in their oils,
wouldn't that show up and then cause the impure oil to be discarded?
If they do the same testing that we do on every batch as they say they
do, then why would their oils smell different? Would they actually be
so bold as to lie on their website about that? Wouldn't that be
misadvertising? There's a disconnect here.... thoughts?
http://www.youngliving.com/en_US/company/therapeutic-grade.html
In fact this DoTERRA page seems to say a lot of the same kinds of
things as the above Young Living page.
http://www.doterra.myvoffice.com/126467/essentialGrades.html
6. Doterra has the CPTG trademark. Well Young Living has the YLTG
(Young Living Therapeutic Grade) Trademark. They justify this
trademark by it's qualifying four P's. It seems that they do the same
kind of testing procedures on their oils as DoTERRA for every batch.
So why do they smell different than DoTERRA's oils?
Thank you all for your time and your input. I really appreciate it!
Kris
On Mar 14, 7:27 pm, Charly Risenmay <doterrasananto...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Great answer!
>
> On Mar 14, 2012, at 10:19 PM, Janyce <janleba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > I'm not at all knowledgeable about YL but since using and becoming
> > very involved in my doTerra business a year ago, I have met many
> > people who have or do use YL E.O.s. First, it occurred to me that
> > since Dr. Hill was very instrumental, for many, many years, in
> > creating blends for YL, it made sense to me that he created doTerra's
> > blends similarly.
>
> > I believe that years ago, YL was a reputable company with a top-of-the-
> > industry essential oil. However, it is my understanding that in
> > recent years, YL's oils became impure and that people were getting
> > sick from them. I personally have met several people who have
> > complained of getting rashes from YL oils. Also, a health food store
> > that was carrying YL oils and took them out because people were
> > getting sick from them.
>
> > I have also meet several people who have told me that YL and it's
> > owner are operating in a "cult" like manner. I even met a lady who
> > said, "I don't care what YL's oils are doing to people, I don't care
> > that doTerra's oils are CPTG, Gary Young was a pioneer in this field
> > and I will never desert him!"
>
> > I have also meet YL users who only use the oils in their "healing/
> > spiritual practice but they do not use them for themselves or their
> > family members. Or they use them for massage therapy and that is it.
> > Why?!?! I don't get that at all...
>
> > There are many essential oil companies out there that claim to be 100%
> > therapeutic grade. So? There is no regulatory governing body to
> > answer to. They can say whatever they want! However, doTerra has
> > gone above that standard and created the certified pure grade of
> > E.O.s. YL people are usually surprised that our oils are safe to be
> > taken internally. Theirs are not but I have met people who use them
> > internally.
>
> > I have also heard that YL only does random testing whereas doTerra
> > tests every batch. I understand that a company needs to have certain
> > information remain proprietary - and I am not so desperate to know the
> > names of the labs. I know they are in Utah. And I also know that the
> > farmers don't get paid until the batch is CPTG. That is HUGE! The
> > purity proof is in the product, the smell and the results, and that is
> > good enough for me.
>
> > A couple weeks ago, I had an opportunity to meet with a lady who had a
> > large supply of YL oils. She wanted to compare them to doTerra and I
> > was, of course, happy to participate in the smell testing with her.
> > It was interesting that every oil I smelled had the same underlying
> > chemical type smell to it. Every one! You could kind of smell what
> > resembled essential oil, but most prominent was this ... other
> > component that was something I was not familiar with. Not a perfume,
> > so maybe a synthetic.... but it was in every oil. Some of them even
> > smelled kind of rancid.
>
> > Also interesting was that none of the YL oils list the ingredients on
> > the bottles! But, every one of doTerra's oils list the ingredients.
> > I have, recently, had several people ask me for a printout of the
> > ingredients in a blend. I tell them, the bottle will give you all the
> > ingredients. They say, they will?!?!? oh, that's awesome!
>
> > Personally, I have a very strong "trust" in the doTerra corporate
> > team. I have met many of them and have found them to be people of
> > integrity. They have a very strong passion for what they are doing
> > and they are compassionate and genuinely concerned about people, and
> > to me, very pure hearted people. Which is why they started this
> > company in the first place.
>
> > I feel that, 1) if you don't have the same passion that the doTerra
> > owners have, then you should move on...go to YL. See what happens.
> > 2) If you have the same passion that the doTerra owners have, then
> > don't be swayed by people who are trying to stir the pot - and tell
> > stories about doTerra. For example, when I first started with
> > doTerra, a friend emailed me a document that she found on her friend's
> > Facebook that was stating that doTerra's Frankincense didn't contain
> > Boswella. I was concerned about this negative publicity and forwarded
> > the document to the proper channels. Then, we learned that
> > Frankincense is not supposed to contain Boswella and is actually toxic
> > to do so. However, it is in the LLV, which is proper for that
> > product.
>
> > I have a team mate who says, if you meet a YL person, the way to get
> > them to try doTerra: you say, oh you like YL? Then you will LOVE
> > doTerra - at the same time putting a bottle of oil under their nose.
> > Or just say to them, just humor me and smell this. They are surprised
> > every time! The proof is in the smell. I have had YL users tell me,
> > "oh wow! I have to have these oils."
>
> > If I meet people who are resistant to doTerra, I just move on to the
> > next person. There are SO many people out there who do not know
> > anything about E.O.s and that there is something pure that will heal
> > them without synthetic medicine. Those are the people we need to
> > focus on. We are the healers, the teachers, we want to educate people
> > about the existence of this product. We don't want to use our energy
> > debating with people who do not share this passion.
>
> > What I have found is that YL users who are not open to hearing about
> > doTerra and say these negative things, are either loyal followers or -
> > they have a ton of inventory. I have also seen YL people with a ton
> > of inventory either put theirs on Ebay or they use up theirs and start
> > replacing it with doTerra.
>
> > I also spoke with a lady who uses YL who said that Gary Young has sent
> > out requests to his distributors asking them NOT to spread rumors
> > about doTerra in the effort to keep "good business practices" - don't
> > know if this is true.
>
> > I have heard from others who have participated in other MLMs that the
> > structure and language is the same or similar. I have no concerns in
> > this area. The only thing I don't care for is being called
> > "distributors" as I feel that since we are signed up as IPCs, we are
> > consultants. And I personally, am a teacher and a consultant - which
> > does not give the "salesman" connotation like distributor does.
>
> > Lastly, there have been many other recent discussions on this topic on
> > this forum. Maybe people should look at that information and draw
> > their conclusions before posting about this again. It just frustrates
> > those of us who know we have made the best decision possible by using
> > and sharing doTerra and know that there is really no option.
>
> > I understand Pat's defensive comments as she has had this same
> > questioning over and over again. And, she knows all too well, that
> > there is nothing better!
>
> > Going forward, in my opinion, I think that if this questioning comes
> > up again, there should be no answer except to say – see prior posts
> > regarding this issue.
>
> > I know I've been long winded but this in hopes to give some examples
> > and constructive information that may be helpful. Thanks.
>
> > On Mar 14, 3:55 pm, Kris <krazykr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hello,
>
> >> I am being told by a friend that Doterra isn't honest about their oils
> >> and that they aren't a very good company. I have done a bit of
> >> research and feel that those accusations are inaccurate. However, I do
> >> have some questions about the company I am hoping some of you can shed
> >> light on. I would like to have more than "because I said so" as a
> >> defense for the company. :)
>
> >> 1. I read that two independent labs test each batch of Doterra's
> >> essential oils. Which labs are those? Do we have actual names to
> >> verify that?
>
> >> 2. I saw an interesting Youtube video that seems to identify that
> >> Frankincense does NOT have boswelllic acid in it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZXejKRKKplY
>
> >> 3. I saw a disturbing accusation that is actually believable. It is
> >> said that the video of the blood sample involving the Balance Blend is
> >> nothing more than a digitized copy of the blood sample analysis done
> >> by Young Living with their Valor blend.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmI4HE0NIhE - about 1 min and 54
> >> secs in
> >> vs.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72gyabv1WmM
> >> I have to say they do look eerily similar.
>
> >> 4. I thought DoTERRA was the only company that did both Gas
> >> Chromatograph and Mass Spectrometer testing. But according to Young
> >> Living they also use BOTH of those forms of testing.http://www.youngliving.com/en_US/company/therapeutic-grade.html
>
> >> In fact this DoTERRA page seems to say a lot of the same kinds of
> >> things as the above Young Living page.http://www.doterra.myvoffice.com/126467/essentialGrades.html
>
> >> 5. Young Living says that they have audits done on their oils by
> >> independent companies to ensure the best quality and if any oil does
> >> not measure up it is not used. (see same Young Living link in point 4)
>
> >> 6. Doterra has the CPTG trademark. Well Young Living has the YLTG
> >> (Young Living Therapeutic Grade) Trademark.
>
> >> 7. Many of Doterra's blends are eerily similar to blends from YL. The
> >> founders all say they didn't copy they 'improved'. Yeah, but it
> >> appears that YL provided that framework and not much was really
> >> changed by way of ingredients.
>
> >> It seems to appear more and more that Doterra is a duplicate of Young
> >> Living. Both seem to claim absolute perfection and purity. So someone
> >> please tell me how I am supposed to defend DoTERRA? Yes the leadership
> >> of DoTERRA is awesome but isn't enough to say they are superior to
> >> everyone else on the market when Young Living appears to be the exact
> >> same and has been in existence for longer and many of DoTerra's
> >> founders came from them in the first place. I've heard the story about
> >> how Doterra came to be and the journey that founders took. It's pretty
> >> amazing yes. But how
>
> ...
>
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