Janice
On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:59:40 PM UTC-5, Pat Leavitt wrote:
We are not a pyramid company!! We are a Network Marketing Company and we have no hostility to any other company, just want to learn about our oils and and learn how they can empower wellness for our friends and families.--
DO NOT GET CAUGHT UP IN THE THICK OF THIN THINGS!!
PatOn Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 7:39 AM, Janice Ladnier <essentialwellness4@gmail.com> wrote:
I've been following discussions on other blogs by "aromatherapy professionals," and I just want to let you know that there is a great deal of hostility out there about both YL and doTERRA. Here's some particularly troubling quotes:
"I have, more than once, asked a rep of that particular MLM who certified the oils "pure therapeutic grade"... some folks say "the government", others "the FDA" and the answer I love most.. ."whoever it is that certifies essential oils, of course." They are NOT really happy to hear that neither the government, the FDA nor any OTHER certifying agency issues such certification. Sometimes I am thanked for giving them something to think about... other times I am accused of being jealous of their superior quality...after all, MY oils aren't certified pure therapeutic grade, after all.... The oils that I have sampled seemed nice enough..I'd not have qualms about using them... but the unethical marketing hype would, for me, contaminate the ENERGETICS of the oils."
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"Hopefully the infighting between the two pyramid companies will allow the rest of the industry to get on with the business of providing quality education, safe products and services without their negative effects... Would anyone really shed a tear if a lengthy, expensive court battle took out both companies???"
I'm not sharing this to make people feel bad or create conflict, but to reinforce the suggestion that we all need to be on our best behavior during this lawsuit. I think it's important that we show that our representatives do in fact behave differently (meaning more reasonably and with greater integrity) than YL does. We don't want to give the impression that our behavior is just as unethical as theirs.
Janice
On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:23:19 AM UTC-5, wholenewmom wrote:Thanks. I must have misread it the first time.--
On Monday, June 25, 2012 7:16:02 PM UTC-4, Janice Ladnier wrote:No, David Stirling was fired when he expressed concern about the direction that YL was taking. Then others at YL decided to quit and join him. I posted a link to Stirling's letter of explanation. Here's a different link to the same letter on EverythingEssential.me. http://www.everythingessential.me/Hints/Dave%20Stirling.html .
Janice
On Monday, June 25, 2012 1:28:17 PM UTC-5, wholenewmom wrote:It was my understanding David Stirling left YL and wasn't dismissed - am I wrong?
On Monday, June 25, 2012 10:30:21 AM UTC-4, Sherrie Wortel wrote:From what I have seen in no compete clauses in the conventional business world, there are time and/or distance limits and sometimes the clause is dismissed if the employee is let go by the company.
On Monday, June 25, 2012 10:01:39 AM UTC-4, wholenewmom wrote:I am for sure not a lawyer, but here is the definition of a do not compete that I found. So I guess there were specifics about this one since obviously doTERRA is a direct competitor. ??A non-compete clause (often NCC), or covenant not to compete (CNC), is a term used in contract law under which one party (usually an employee) agrees not to pursue a similar profession or trade in competition against another party (usually the employer). As a contract provision, a CNC is bound by traditional contract requirements including the consideration doctrine. The use of such clauses is premised on the possibility that upon their termination or resignation, an employee might begin working for a competitor or starting a business, and gain competitive advantage by abusing confidential information about their former employer's operations or trade secrets, or sensitive information such as customer/client lists, business practices, upcoming products, and marketing plans.I do not like how YL put this on their site. Seems wrong to me. I hope this all works out right. Is there a way one can have a non compete and then compete in the future?
On Monday, June 25, 2012 8:57:02 AM UTC-4, Pat Leavitt wrote:I do know that our CEO had a do not complete clause which he fully honored. He actually came to visit my son-in-law (a close personal friend) and did not ever mention what he was going to do in the future (this was before doTerra).
Some people are just honorable in all they do and say.
PatOn Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 6:54 AM, DanielH <dj_dan_18@hotmail.com> wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised though if there was a term in the contract that stated that they cannot compete directly with YL after leaving company. That is common with most contracts. So YL may have an argument on some levels... though whatever they may be, hopefully doTERRA can give sufficient response.The fact that they are attacking in this way does indicate a level of desperation, and continues their recent actions of targeting doTERRA by name. YL reps will be loving this.I think I heard somewhere that YL and doTERRA founders are from same Christian denomination - is that correct? If so, I find it even more sad.
On Monday, June 25, 2012 1:43:34 PM UTC+1, Pat Leavitt wrote:You can't take someone to court because you think they don't have integrity. I am sure they are trying to prove that they stole lists and took information, we know that is not true and they still have to prove it. I am sad that they have felt so frightened at what doTerra is becoming that they want us to muck through the mud with them. The only difference is we will come out mud free!! That is how much faith (with knowledge) that I have.--
PatOn Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 6:34 AM, DanielH wrote:It does sound intriguing. Hopefully on the positive side, if the case does go to the courts, the information that may be revealed could prove helpful. Young Living have thrown up some claims about the integrity of doTERRA's founders, and because no-one on the outside (i.e. you and me) know the details, these allegations can continue. Hopefully they can be put to bed through this process, as the facts will come out in court.That will be beneficial to us too, because one negative with doTERRA is that information is so limited. This case may provide a way for that information to be forthcoming.Meanwhile however, this case between to MLM's is just what the rest of the essential oils world wants. They love it. They consider doTERRA and YL to be worthless, and bad for the industry.. and while this case goes on, we are the laughing stock.
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