Messages In This Digest (13 Messages)
- 1a.
- Re: vaccine/ get sick afterwards From: Meagan Folsom
- 1b.
- Re: vaccine/ get sick afterwards From: Heather Kalb
- 1c.
- Re: vaccine/ get sick afterwards From: Kristen Lodwick
- 2a.
- Re: swineflu update From: Kristen Lodwick
- 2b.
- Re: swineflu update From: Kristen Lodwick
- 2c.
- Re: swineflu update From: jennifer_altman73
- 2d.
- Re: swineflu update From: Deb Gibson
- 2e.
- Re: swineflu update From: jennifer_altman73
- 3a.
- Re: Coupons From: smidgetsmidgetsandmore
- 4a.
- where From: Shelia Chambers
- 5a.
- Re: Winter Coats From: Jennifer Livernois
- 6.
- bed wetting and pants wetting From: Molly
- 7.
- Martha Stewart Thanksgiving Hotline Recipes Cookbook From: JustMe
Messages
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Re: vaccine/ get sick afterwards
Posted by: "Meagan Folsom" meagan.folsom@yahoo.com meagan.folsom
Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:29 am (PST)
I am a pediatric nurse and more than likely it is related to the shot, due to the shot being a dead virus it is very possible. I hope this helps.
Meagan F. R.N
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From: cat_re04 <cat_re04@yahoo.com >
To: mompowergroup@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Fri, November 13, 2009 11:11:25 AM
Subject: [mompowergroup] Re: vaccine/ get sick afterwards
My 2 yo got the flu vaccine yesterday am. After his nap, he woke up with a runny nose and cough. Today he's mushy, and his temp is 99.9. He has a runny nose still. The doc office said it's not related to the shot, and that it's probably just a cold. So it's a coincidence that he was fine until he got the shot??? I feel like if I didn't get the shot he'd be fine.
Any doc or nurses out there have any input?
Thank you,
Long Island, Mommy of one
--- In mompowergroup@ yahoogroups. com, Kristen Lodwick <kvnsgrl214@ ...> wrote:
>
> Hi Sheila. Actually, this is the thing. Everything Jennifer said already is true. But---most hospitals and doctors are saying that the flu is in fact H1N1 and that's not true at all. In order for it to be H1N1, the CDC has to confirm it. So the local ER will in fact do swabs and blood tests to see if you have the flu, and most of the time they jump the gun and say its in fact H1N1 but unless the CDC confirms it, through their own testing, its just the regular seasonal flu. Maybe that helps...
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Re: vaccine/ get sick afterwards
Posted by: "Heather Kalb" hjkalb@gmail.com drhjkalb
Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:29 am (PST)
The shots are going to millions of peoples. Of those million people, some
were going to get sick or were already getting sick, some were even going to
die of various reasons that have nothing to do with the shots. Just because
you see a correlation between two events does not mean that the first one
caused the second, particularly when you are talking about millions of
people getting the shots.
Heather
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 12:11 PM, cat_re04 <cat_re04@yahoo.com > wrote:
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> My 2 yo got the flu vaccine yesterday am. After his nap, he woke up with a
> runny nose and cough. Today he's mushy, and his temp is 99.9. He has a runny
> nose still. The doc office said it's not related to the shot, and that it's
> probably just a cold. So it's a coincidence that he was fine until he got
> the shot??? I feel like if I didn't get the shot he'd be fine.
>
> Any doc or nurses out there have any input?
>
> Thank you,
> Long Island, Mommy of one
>
> --- In mompowergroup@yahoogroups. <mompowergroup%com 40yahoogroups. com>,
> Kristen Lodwick <kvnsgrl214@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Sheila. Actually, this is the thing. Everything Jennifer said already
> is true. But---most hospitals and doctors are saying that the flu is in fact
> H1N1 and that's not true at all. In order for it to be H1N1, the CDC has to
> confirm it. So the local ER will in fact do swabs and blood tests to see if
> you have the flu, and most of the time they jump the gun and say its in fact
> H1N1 but unless the CDC confirms it, through their own testing, its just the
> regular seasonal flu. Maybe that helps...
>
>
--
Heather Kalb
6 Jef Rd
Statesboro, GA 30458
812 461-8965
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Re: vaccine/ get sick afterwards
Posted by: "Kristen Lodwick" kvnsgrl214@yahoo.com kvnsgrl214
Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:30 am (PST)
well, actually, the flu vaccine is a dead virus. that means that what they inject into you can't make you sick. its in fact the same virus that you catch, but they kill it first. I know it doesn't make a lot of sense, but that's what happens. And after that, you can feel feverish or get a runny nose, but that's the true indicator that the body is building up the antibodies against the flu. does that help?
♥Kristen
--- On Fri, 11/13/09, cat_re04 <cat_re04@yahoo.com > wrote:
From: cat_re04 <cat_re04@yahoo.com >
Subject: [mompowergroup] Re: vaccine/ get sick afterwards
To: mompowergroup@yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 5:11 PM
My 2 yo got the flu vaccine yesterday am. After his nap, he woke up with a runny nose and cough. Today he's mushy, and his temp is 99.9. He has a runny nose still. The doc office said it's not related to the shot, and that it's probably just a cold. So it's a coincidence that he was fine until he got the shot??? I feel like if I didn't get the shot he'd be fine.
Any doc or nurses out there have any input?
Thank you,
Long Island, Mommy of one
--- In mompowergroup@ yahoogroups. com, Kristen Lodwick <kvnsgrl214@ ...> wrote:
>
> Hi Sheila. Actually, this is the thing. Everything Jennifer said already is true. But---most hospitals and doctors are saying that the flu is in fact H1N1 and that's not true at all. In order for it to be H1N1, the CDC has to confirm it. So the local ER will in fact do swabs and blood tests to see if you have the flu, and most of the time they jump the gun and say its in fact H1N1 but unless the CDC confirms it, through their own testing, its just the regular seasonal flu. Maybe that helps...
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Re: swineflu update
Posted by: "Kristen Lodwick" kvnsgrl214@yahoo.com kvnsgrl214
Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:29 am (PST)
yea, its common. I ended up getting the regular flu vaccine because the other one is out. there is just a huge shortage and with everyone scared, its likely they will never have enough. just be careful with the flu mist..its a live virus
♥Kristen
--- On Fri, 11/13/09, midnightstarlight99@yahoo.com <midnightstarlight99@yahoo.com > wrote:
From: midnightstarlight99@yahoo.com <midnightstarlight99@yahoo.com >
Subject: Re: [mompowergroup] Re: re:swineflu update
To: mompowergroup@yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 6:46 PM
And now they are telling me they are out of the flu shot for my 5 y/o :( but at least he and little brother (3) will have both doses of the nasal spray ... If they don't run out by the 19th!
kriss
--- Original Message ---
From:"Kristen Lodwick" <kvnsgrl214@yahoo. com>
Hi Kriss. The most common reason why they aren't telling people about the second dose is because there is a shortage of vaccines and they want enough to go around. The problem with that, is they aren't being honest with the patients and their families. I'm glad you dound out on your own. I know I would have been devastated if something happened after my boys were vaccinated.
�Kristen
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Re: swineflu update
Posted by: "Kristen Lodwick" kvnsgrl214@yahoo.com kvnsgrl214
Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:30 am (PST)
Right there is the problem. people are freaking out all around the world because of the H1N1 flu. Kids under 10 yrs need 2 full doses to actually build up the antibodies. I'm sorry to hear that in Canada they really don't have enough supply. They shouldn't be given half doses, instead they should give all the kids at least the regular seasonal flu vaccine---that's better than nothing. With one dose, its highly doubtful that it will do any good, unfortunately
♥Kristen
--- On Fri, 11/13/09, teresa gutierrez <teredewhite@yahoo.com > wrote:
From: teresa gutierrez <teredewhite@yahoo.com >
Subject: [mompowergroup] swineflu update
To: mompowergroup@yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 5:08 PM
Hi Kristen! Just got news from Nova Scotia. In Canada, kids 6 mos. to 5 yrs. are getting half doses, one time, and kids up to 16 get one full dose. What's going on? T
--- El jue 12-nov-09, Kristen Lodwick <kvnsgrl214@yahoo. com> escribió:
De: Kristen Lodwick <kvnsgrl214@yahoo. com>
Asunto: Re: [mompowergroup] Re: re:swineflu update
A: mompowergroup@ yahoogroups. com
Fecha: jueves, 12 noviembre, 2009, 4:02 pm
Hi Linda. No..you wont hear that through the media. But like I said, I'm fortunate enough to hear all the medical stuff, and that info is vital to all the little ones out there, that's why I definitely wanted to share it.
♥Kristen
--- On Thu, 11/12/09, Linda Roe <icecream52765@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Linda Roe <icecream52765@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [mompowergroup] Re: re:swineflu update
To: mompowergroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 3:02 PM
Thanks for letting us know about needing the 2 doses. i never heard that through the media!
--- On Wed, 11/11/09, Kristen Lodwick <kvnsgrl214@yahoo. com> wrote:
I work in a hospital. I wanted to share something will all of you moms out there. I also have children, 4 boys all together, and not a lot of people are aware of this. If you get your children the H1N1 vaccine, they need 2 doses of the vaccination to actually build up the antibodies. There are a lot of cases of small children being hospitalized and even worse, and the parents saying that they were vaccinated.
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Re: swineflu update
Posted by: "jennifer_altman73" jenniferaltman@ec.rr.com jennifer_altman73
Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:31 am (PST)
Unfortunately, with my daughters chronic illness, she is not allowed the flu mist since it has the live virus. She will always have to have the shot. So I only have one option. I run to the doctor when I know she has to get a vaccine that is limited. Ugh!
--- In mompowergroup@yahoogroups. , Kristen Lodwick <kvnsgrl214@com ...> wrote:
>
> Very true. there is a huge shortage of H1N1 vaccines. One will help, but you could also try the flu mist vaccine, it will sort of help get the little ones through. No problem, I'm a mom too, and I know I wouldn't want anything to happen to any of my little guys.
>
> ♥Kristen
>
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Re: swineflu update
Posted by: "Deb Gibson" dlgibson@alliancecom.net kagomesdaughter
Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:31 am (PST)
Sharing some news I just read---
http://deathby1000papercuts. 11/h1n1-police-com/2009/ hold-down- wv-boy-during- forced-swine- flu-vaccination/
H1N1: Police Hold Down WV Boy During Forced Swine Flu Vaccination
November 11th, 2009
West Virginia Police Forcibly Hold Boy for H1N1 Flu Shot After He had Fled Gym
Maryland Parents Face Fines, Jail, Unless Kids Get H1N1 Vaccination
New
Massachusetts Law: Adults Face Jail Unless They Get H1N1 Shot, Kids Can
be Forcibly Removed from Parents so State can Vaccinate Kids
1062091784-polyclinics-receive- about-400- pre-8212- orders-for- h1n1-vaccination s
In
a shocking story, a boy was held down by two deputies so that the boy,
in middle school, would receive an H1N1 shot during a vaccination
clinic held at the Wheeling West Virginia Middle School last Friday.
According
to the Wheeling Intelligencer, it took the "strength of two deputies"
to hold down the boy. To make matters even worse, prior to the shot the
boy had fled the gymnasium, where the school´s resource officer, a
local deputy at the Ohio County´s Sheriff´s Office, allegedly "coaxed" the boy back inside.
According to a witness, health department Administrator
Howard Gamble, who stated during a regular Wheeling-Ohio County Health
Board meeting Tuesday, he saw another Sheriff´s deputy aid the first
deputy "hold the kid down".
From the Intelligencer: http://www.theintelligencer. html?nav=515net/page/ content.detail/ id/530805.
He noted the boy´s mother could not bear to watch the scene and left
the gymnasium. Out of apparent fear of receiving the injection, the
student ran out of the building. The school´s resource officer, Ohio County Sheriff´s
Deputy John Haglock, coaxed the boy back inside. Once at the shot
station, however, Haglock apparently needed some help keeping the boy
still, and another deputy assisted.
"He tried to run. I
looked over and saw two sheriff´s deputies holding a kid down," Gamble
said. "Mom took off, she couldn´t take it. You had one nurse with the
needle, two deputies holding him, one nurse is grabbing hands because
that´s what they want to do, to go after the needle. And that´s the
last thing you want."
We spoke to Ohio County Sheriff Pat Butler
about the incident. While he was helpful, he stated that "this was the
first" he´d heard of the incident. We asked why the deputies were
there, did the school board request them to be there during the
vaccination clinic?
Sheriff Butler responded that "it had to be the SRO, each school has a school resource officer. The Sheriff´s Department only has one SRO at each school". When we asked about the "second deputy", Butler stated that the Wheeling Police Department has SRO´s at each school.
Perhaps that is the "second deputy" to which the health department official was referring.
It´s
apparent the boy was forcibly vaccinated, and, that according to
witnesses, two members of the police were involved. What´s in dispute
is who the second officer was, whether he was a member of the Sheriff´s
Department, whom the head of the school board claimed was there, or, a
member of the local police department.
The
site Prison Planet posted a FOX News video where parents of 1600
students in Maryland were ordered to court facing fines or jail time if
they didn´t get their kids state mandated vaccinations for H1N1, Chicken Pox, and Hepatitis B.
The following video is from FOX News on a controversial new law in Massachusetts
where the police can vaccinate adults against their will, jail people
who refuse to get the shot, while the police can remove children from
their parents in order to have the children vaccinated.
http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=1Ayy6Rl_ 5YU
Ro. 12:19 "Vengeance is mine,
saith the Lord"-- meet "Vengeance"!--
Deb Gibson
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Re: swineflu update
Posted by: "jennifer_altman73" jenniferaltman@ec.rr.com jennifer_altman73
Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:32 am (PST)
Thank you Kristen. You are so sweet. We do the best we can at keeping a positive attitude. Take care!
--- In mompowergroup@yahoogroups. , Kristen Lodwick <kvnsgrl214@com ...> wrote:
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> My heart goes out to you Jennifer. I hope everything works out for the very best
>
> ♥Kristen
>
>
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Re: Coupons
Posted by: "smidgetsmidgetsandmore" smidgetsmidgetsandmore@yahoo.com smidgetsmidgetsandmore
Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:31 am (PST)
These days, anyone is crazy NOT to use coupons. I too use hot coupon world, and have found lots of new ways to find coupons, such as a site called retail me not where you can get coupon codes for online orders as well.
Julie
--- In mompowergroup@yahoogroups. , "bizdiva39942" <bizdiva39942@com ...> wrote:
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> In these trying times we have to live smart and definitely SHOP smart. The work on the front end to learn the systems and locate the codes is minimal in comparison to the savings for our families. I never thought I'd be a "coupon clipper." But, it's foolish to throw away money in these times. Each coupon has a cash value. Money. -What was I *thinking*???
>
> Well, I am reformed, LOL. I am looking on the sites right now. Someone mentioned a friend's list on hotcouponworld.com - I'm not yet familiar but will check that out and ask if I might add you all once I figure out how the program works.
>
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where
Posted by: "Shelia Chambers" sheliachambers33@yahoo.com sheliachambers33
Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:31 am (PST)
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Re: Winter Coats
Posted by: "Jennifer Livernois" jenlivernois@gmail.com jenniferlivernois
Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:32 am (PST)
I only shop online, because I get additional discounts for EVERYTHING I buy
through a site called "Ebates". It's an automatic discount, after your
purchase they send you your rebate automatically. I then do a google search
for promotional codes, coupons and discounts for a particular store, once I
figure out what I'm originally shopping for! I don't think I have ever spent
full price on anything, except if I go on a Chicago shopping spree!
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 1:02 PM, cat_re04 <cat_re04@yahoo.com > wrote:
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> I'm not too sure about North Face, although I do know it can be pricey. As
> for black Friday, you can find some good tips here:
> http://www.getsetforchristmas. blogspot. com.
>
> I hear Kohl's has great clothing deals. I like Walmart prices.
>
> --- In mompowergroup@yahoogroups. <mompowergroup%com 40yahoogroups. com>,
> Diana A <loving_my_life7@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hello All,
> >
> > I would like to know if anyone knows of where I can purchase North Face
> Winter Coats for less than they are sold on the actual North Face website?
> I want the real coat, not a knock off. I have three girls that I need
> to purchase a coat for.
> >
> > Also, does anyone know of any good "Black Friday" sales?
> >
> > I thank you in advance for your guidance. Have a splendid day!
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
>
>
>
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bed wetting and pants wetting
Posted by: "Molly" mollyanderson19@yahoo.com mollyanderson19
Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:32 am (PST)
Hello molly here single mom with 5 kids 4 girls ages 3,4,6,9,and a boy 6 I was wondering are there any mom out there that need help with potty training. Maybe even after the are trained and still messing thier pants. I have some idea's I would like to share. Please email me at mollyanderson19@yahoo.com Or any punishment issues My kids are strong willed so I try to be creative when I have to punish. Looking to chat with moms and maybe make friends thanks molly
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Martha Stewart Thanksgiving Hotline Recipes Cookbook
Posted by: "JustMe" freecyclechic2@yahoo.com freecyclechic2
Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:34 am (PST)
I found this link to Martha Stewart Thanksgiving Hotline Recipes Cookbook. Just go to the website below for your copy of each delicious chapter, from desserts to, of course, turkey. Available in PDF.
http://www.sirius.com/marthastewar tlivingradio
These recipes sound so yummy, I can't wait to try some...
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